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 PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 11 6:42 am   
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Hi Everyone,

Well I guess now that the going pro part of the forum is up and running I guess it is time to reveal the other side of me.

I'm a mechanical engineer by qualification. I started in the automotive industry and have worked in design, testing, manufacturing and quality. Most recently i have moved into the mining industry and have done a lot of work in business improvement and business process. In particular I am very experience in lean and 6 sigma methodologies.

For most people starting their own wood working business it would be worth trying to get an understanding of lean manufacturing. A lot of what it talks about wont be very applicable to a one man band, but there are lessons to be learned. if your business grows, lean principles become more and more important in growing and efficient business.

If anyone wants any help or advice on how to set up their manufacturing operations I am more than happy to assist. Bearing in mind i'm in australia so cant help with US or UK business law or tax or anything like that.. but i can advise on manufacturing and business process. That is what i know.

Send me a PM if you'd like to chat.

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 PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 11 4:09 pm   
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Joe,
I am in the US but still interested in your thoughts!

Is there a way you can share on this thread for all to see? Or would you rather not?

I have a small one man shop and I am growing. Kind of quick it seems.

I need to hire help but??

The work is flying in and going out slower than I would like!

Would love to hear your thoughts on growing a buisness.

Thanks,
Nick

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 PostPosted: Tue Apr 12, 11 7:07 pm   
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Now that would be a perfect Thread.

I am here, business is growing, to hire or not.

Absolutely great topic for all of the 207. I have no doubt there are those with the same question.

Call it procrastination or whatever. But I would be willing to bet this could be one really growing topic, ahhhhhh pardon the pun.

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 PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 11 1:12 am   
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Hi Nick, Richard,

Obviously i cant tell you whether to hire an employee. It's your business and ultimately your decision. I have no idea what your cash flow is, how much you get for each piece or how long it takes for you to build a piece.

However, I can ask a few questions that might get you thinking ion the right way. Ask yourself this question "what is value adding? and what is not value adding?"

In the strictest sense, an activity is value adding if it is something the customer will pay for. you are transforming lumber into some thing beautiful (hopefully :lol: ) and customers will pay for that.. that is why they are commisioning you to do the work. However, there are a lot of things that you do that the customer doesnt care about. you need to do it, but they arent willing to pay for it.

so, as an example, planing a piece of wood is a value adding activity. so is glueing screwing, finishing etc.

Sweeping up after you make a mess is not value adding.the customer doesnt care if you work in mess.. as long as the work is done. paying bills in not value adding.. the customer doesnt care if you get the wood for free.. as long as they get what they are paying for. these activities do not transformt eh wood in any way.

Non-value adding activities are either necessary on non-necessary for your business. the necessary nonvalue add activities are things the business just needs to do and you have to wear the cost, paying bills, creating invoices, managing the books etc. Non-necessary non-value add activities are the things you do, that a customer wont pay for and you just dont need to do. As an example, you go to the local lumber store, buy a whole pile of stuff get home and realise you forgot to get a particular widget... you have to go back to the lumber store to get something you should have gotten in teh first place.

for your business, as a one man band ask yourself what activities you personally can add the most value to. what activities do you have to do, bbut waste a lot of time on and what activities do you do that you just shouldnt. the answer to these questions will hopefully guide you to a solution around whether you need to hire help.

So, as an example, you should be spending as much time on the tools as possible.... thats what you do.. thats where you make your money.

obviously you have to sort out bills and invoices. Can you group them and hire a book keeper one day a week so that all of the book work gets sorted in one hit? (note that if you do this you are hiring someone.. just not a full tiume employee). I'm not sure what its like in the US, but in Australia there are a number of firms and franchises that specialise in book keeping for smaller business's (just remmeber. if you go down this path conduct regular audits.. you dont want the book keeper making mistakes)

you have to clean the work shop. Can you hire a local school kid (get a recommendation from the shop teacher) to come in every day after school to clean up after you? once again, you are hiring someone, but not a full time employee. If you work from rouch stock you could get the kid to dress it for you ready for the next day's work.

Plan your jobs, figure out as much as you can before hand so you only go to the store once, or if you forget somethign, wait till you have to go back for other things.

I cant post documents on the forum, but if you PM me with your email address i should be able to fire off some readingmaterial that may help.

the examples i have given are essentially examples of outsourcing.. your core business is skilled working with wood and you pay some one else to do all the other stuff for you. now, as you grow you can start to insource... ie hire people to do that stuff for you as opposed to contracting someone. that way you grow your output and size

Now.. the next question is whether you do one off pieces or not? if you do, its a bit difficult, but if possible, batch as much as you can.. by performing batch operations you can minimise set up time.

I hope this has helped in some way.

Chat soon

Joe


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 PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 11 4:50 am   
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A further thought on the "to hire or not to hire" question. Do a deal with someone to sub contract some of your work. This has several benefits over hiring someone, either part time or full. First, you know in advance how much each piece they do for you will cost, and you pay only for production, never for someone just being there. Second, you don't have to get involved in payroll and deductions. Third, you don't have to carry insurance covering the subs like you would have to for an employee.

What should you sub out? Depends on what you are making. If, for instance, you are making cabinets, you might get someone to build the carcasses for you, or the doors. You would provide the materials and they would do the work in their own shop. This also saves you wear and tear on your tools and lessens the amount of clean up needed in your shop.

Eventually, if you grow large enough you will have to hire employees, but my advice is to postpone that step as long as possible.

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 PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 11 6:18 am   
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Thank you Joe,
I am going to look into the book keeping portion for hire. I have a guy coming out now to do some smaller tasks in the evenings when he gets done with his regular job.
I also had a painter/finisher that I have known for a long time stop out last week and spoke to him about coming in and doing the finishing work part time.

I have cnc capabilities in the shop and that speeds typical cabinet production BUT I mostly do one offs of all varieties. I lose a lot of time trying to get the designs together and then into production in the shop. I don't have a strict formula to get to production so to speek.

I am also limited by space and am thinking of adding on another 1000sqft to help absorb the burden.

You don't realize how much space it takes to spread out several jobs until you have the parts scattered all over the shop!! :shock: :lol:

Paul I think I have put hiring off as long as I could. If the buisness is not growing it is shrinking. A buisness never really plateaus.


Thanks,
Nick

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 PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 11 7:17 am   
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nbuck,

You might look at your work processes for some stream lining.

Does one particular aspect of getting the work out the door take longer than it should?

How much time do you spend juggling multiple projects at teh same time? Moving stuff, searching for a missing part etc.

Does juggling multiple projects increase the chance of making mistakes?

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