Sorry... For some reason I got stuck in curly maple mode. A dining chair, rocking chair and a simple platform lounge chair. Mundane I know, but I was lazy.

NYNY,

Love them, although I think the circular sections of the rocker arms looks a little 'beefy' to me.

Can you show us the backs?

Bruce.

Rocker arms were drawn at 8/4 (1 3/4) and the rest of the rocker would be 6/4.

backs rendered or just wire frame?

In my opinion, they all seem very "heavy." I like light and airy furniture. That's why I don't buy furniture - it all seems so massive. Take a look at Ashely Home Furniture, Raymour & Flanigan, etc, Its very bulky. Keep in mind its only the opinion of me, my style and tastes.



What I like is along the style of Maloof, Moser, etc.





Dining room:

Yours:



My pick (not that I like it, just that it shows one of your styles):



Rockers:

yours:



rough ideal:


That's why we are all different.

Looking at both pictures together, if you redesign the padding, and lighten the arms or redesign the front, it might work.

Now that I see them all side my side, scale the bulk. Don't make them look stick built. Add character/warmth.

We'll show you downstater's how things are done upstate style! If your coming to the NSY Fair and I crushed you, I'll buy you one of these to make you feel better:



http://www.delish.com/food/recalls-reviews/donut-burger-new-york-state-fair

Backs Rendered if you could. Thanks.

B

Interesting comparisons. Kind of night and day but interesting none the less.

Something about a glazed donut with lettuce on it that just ain't right.... That's just wrong... I'd prefer a "blues burger" from the Dinosaur BBQ. The one in harlem not the one on willow st.

Can't reduce the cushion size as it is a lounge chair and supposed to be low to the ground to begin with, any lower and a person would be sitting japanese style.

The back of the lounge chair has a lot of potential for veneer design, box,diamond,reverse diamond reverse box ect.....

the rocking chair is close, but i can't quite put my finger on what I don't like. maybe the arms, or try some contrasting wood in center back splats and seat assembly.

the side chair I like except the back legs seem a bit too narrow and makes it look "tippy"

To be very frank, the low lounge chair does nothing for me

NYNY, thanks for posting a rendering of the backs. I like the look on the rocker. I'd like to see your plan for the Arm-to-back and rear leg-to-back joinery.

Bruce

The entire design relies on extensive M/T joinery. But here is the arm-to-back and slat, and upright to slat. lag bolt up from bottom for the front of the arm.

It's the bottom rail that attaches to the radius rails that is more complicated.

The arm as I said are 1 3/4 and everything else being 1 3/8 with the exception of the bottom rail which is left at 1 1/2. the rail is re-sawn in half, both faces clean up. then two 3/8 flutes are routes in both re-sawn faces. Then 3/8 threaded rod is inserted into the two flutes and the other half glued with epoxy trapping the rods. Then planed to match the others at 1 3/8. the depth of the notch and angle have already been cut, (one of the advantages of CAD), the width was left an 1/8 longer so it can be trimmed flush with the radius rails. washer and flat nut, holes plugged. you will never see a glue joint on the top of the bottom rail as the spacing is 1 inch on the slats, and of course the other joint is facing the floor. almost impossible to spot from a side view as only 3/4 is above the radius rail which tapers to 1/8.

Pinning the mortises in places after glued is optional, I'm not a fan of that but it may look good with ebony.

I'm still up in the air as to the upright joinery into the radius rails.

NYNY...thanks for the graphics and the explanation.

NYNY,

These designs are way off the map of what I usually prefer. I actually like the lounge chair by far over the rocker and the side chair.

But you are THE MAN when it comes to computerized drawing. I am envious.

Cal

NYNY... Forgot to add that I thought you might consider using a floating tenon for the back joint and a wedged tenon for the bottom rail.. I like the idea of the ebony pins and wedges for the joints

B,

I agree on the floating tenons for the back uprights and where the seat slats meet the back slats.

Lost me on the wedge tenons for the bottom rails.


Chobbs66,

Thanks. It's nice to have something to fall back on just in case I lob of a few digits on the table saw.

Lounge chair is my favorite as it has a lot of surface potential. dining chair looks nice, good back form but not cost effective to fabricate. The rocker has potential.

Awesome graphics. I'm jealous.

The Doughnut Burger doesn't appeal to me either 1500 cals of heart stopping food.

NYNY,

My thoughts for the wedge tenon were for attaching the circular part of the arm rest to the seat. The wedge would also be a floating tenon inserted up through the bottom of the seat rail, then spread. It would be pinned in the arm rest.

Hope this clarifies my sometimes convoluted thought process.

Bruce

Wedge up from the bottom doesn't work as there is only a 1/4 of the circle bearing on the seat slat. Anything bigger will start to show on the sides of the circle.

Are you trying to strip all my designs of metal fasteners?

Did I mention all the pocket holes in the bottom of the seat slats?

Teak outdoor set coming next.

REAL woodworkers do it in wood.

REAL woodworkers don't use pocket screws. If your using pocket screws, you'll want to hang out at that other guys forum - Scott Phillips.

You just backed Tommy into a corner with that one, for however long the show is on the air, he can now never use a pocket hole screw......

So I'm in a position to poke my head up for some air and what a great post to see. Lots of work and thought by all very obvious.

Here's what stuck out for me:

1. I thought Craig Nutt finally moved from vegetables to hamburgers :^)

2. The comment that the "back leg" structure of the dining chair looked unstable is faulty....although NYNY shows a different style, this approach to dinning chairs has been done through the 80's, think gloss black lacquer, grays and mauve fabric all tucked under a glass top dining table.

3. NYNY mentioned that his approach to the dining chair would be cost prohibitive in production......good to see statements like this.

It's alivvvvve!

Did Tommy let you out on a work furlough? Sabbatical over with?

Craig Nutt? You gotta stop farting around with .jpegs and servers. I'm a master a deciphering coy and oblique speech.

Don't start ramping up the 80's talk or JL will come out of moth
balls.


Prototype rocker done, all prototypes are white. dining chair will never see the light of day.Lounge chair under way.


And where's your step stool? Eli's makin' me wait for his......... wait for it, wait for it......

BAM! here it is.....

I"m working on a new design. one that incorporates Ray Eames house bird into a step stool.

And the name? That's easy......

Stool Pigeon

NYNY,

As good as that rocker looked on paper, its mock up looks even better. Much to my surprise, the girth of the curved arms looks a lot better than I suspected it would.

Question 1: What material did you use for the mock up?

Question 2: Did you move the chair out of the canal before Irene washed it away?

Bruce

The rocker is poplar with ML Campbell flat pigmented laq. smaller prototypes are usually maple, and if there is no budget, a combo of poplar and MDF.

"Joe Cocker the rocker" was done well before Irene

IMHO - it still looks "very heavy."

Nice job on the mock up. How do you think your going to finish it once the real one is built?

mock up or cobalt/photoshop hmmmmm NYNY???

I want to see ya sitting in it!